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health care and cuts in discretionary spending. other than that, no specifics. president obama wasn't feeling it. he said the gop must agree to one thing to get anywhere close do a deal. >>. >> wee going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> speaker boehner fired back. >> this week, we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis. now, we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> so, here we are, just over three weeks from going over the fiscal cliff. you're probably getting a lot of stuff around the house this weekend wondering what the heck is going on in these houses in washington. this is the worst of american politics. they put themselves and their political games first and put your future and prosperity second, but hey, you voted them into office. remember what happened the last time washington got into a budget battle like this? lawmakers put a band-aid on the problem and the u.s. lost its aaa crediting rating. i've warned you over and over about the economi
testing. >> governor romney agreed, and if you look at president obama's proposal for medicare cuts, there is means testing in that. i think we need both tax revenue, and we need much more than what tax reform will get us, we also need higher tax rates, and spending cuts. it has to be balanced. i'm optimistic, it feels to me like they're coming to a middle ground. >> i don't see that. right now when i listen to the democrats, i'm hearing no cuts in medicare, medicaid, social security, some are saying it's not even a problem -- >> they kind of don't matter at this point, right? >> they don't matter, but we talk so much about the politics within the republican party, and within the republican caucus of the house, and talk to seen your democrats and they will tell you, rank and file democrats, emanuel cleaver, who is the tom cole of the left, it will be hard for them at the end of the day to say you'll have to give on raising the eligibility age for medicare. that's not easy for democrats to swallow. >> the deals that were made, recently, have not been from the right and the left. the
the 50% of the vote in november. >>> obama is taking his message of middle class tax cuts on the road. he tomorrow he'll tour a diesel engine shop. >>> have you every fallen asleep while watching tv only to be blasted awake by a loud ad. >> wow! that's a low price! >> i know! >> weeeee! >> starting thursday, the commercial advertisement loudness mitigation act, better known as calm goes into effect. the law which congress passed in 2010, bans ads from being louder than the tv program their interrupting. >>> we'll talk about that presidential trip to michigan and what he'll say about the large show showdown there after these not so large commercials. [ male announcer ] break the grip of back or arthritis pain with odor free aspercreme. powerful medicine relieves pain fast, with no odor. so all you notice is relief. aspercreme. >>> we are back with steven moore and jackie calms, michigan in this sort of methodic, at least in terms of the political times right now t electric chur passes a right to work law in michigan, kind of at least one of the cradles of the union and it would mean that y
care and cuts in discretionary spending. other than that, no specifics. president obama said the gop must agree to one thing to get anywhere close to a deal. >> we have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. we're not going to get a deal without it. >> speaker boehner fired back. >> this week we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis. now we need a response from the white house. we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> here we are just weeks away from going over the fiscal cliff. you probably wonder what's going on in these houses in washington. they put themselves and their political gains first and put their future in prosperity second. hey, you voted them in. remember what happened the last time washington got into a budget battle like this? lawmakers put a band aid on the problem and the u.s. lost its aaa credit rating in the process. i warned you about the economic storm headed our way, partly because of europe and partly because of this fiscal cliff. i also told you about an american economic renaissance that could be just ahead. just beyond the storm clouds. the fiscal
it is for president obama and congress to make a deal, cutting spending and raising revenue. adding to the sense of urgency. news that 350,000 people simply gave up looking for work in the month of november. and while that drove the unemployment rate down to 7.7%, the fiscal cuts and tax hikes are expected to dramatically slow job creation and increase unemployment possibly plunging the economy back into a recession. let's go to dana joining us from capitol hill. the latest negotiations don't seem to be going anywhere. >> they sure don't. the house speaker ended the week by calling it a wasted week. he only had one phone call with the president of the united states and he said it was just, "more of the same." now counter offer to what the republicans put out during the week which was $800 billion in new tax revenue. so there's certainly a lot of frustration. particularly right now on the side of republicans who understand that democrats have the leverage right now. but on friday, the speaker did do something that seemed to indicate a little bit of day light. and that is he declined to put a line
's constitution is set for next week. >>> president obama is taking his message of mid-class tax cuts back on the road. he's heading to m tomorrow the plant is a uaw shop and it's expected to pull him into the debate over the union's and to organize workers. those are your top stories. "reliable sources" is up at the top of the hour but right now back to "fareed zakaria gps." >>> one out of two men will develop cancer in their lifetime. women are a little luckier. one out of three will get it. regards of your sex, those are terrifying numbers. but all of that could change because cures are inside. this is the president of the world's largest cancer center, m.d. anderson in houston, texas. >>> you believe we are at a point where we could actually cure cancer. >> i think we're at a major turning point in the history of cancer medicine where we have a very deep understanding of how it comes about and if it is established, how to deal with it. want and we have game-changing technological skranss that allow us to do much better care, cancer care of patients. >> what is the game-changing technol
, but the democrats also want to extend some of the tax cuts that were enacted as part of obama's 2009 stimulus plan. that's where you get that bump up for college tuition and extra child credits and that sort of thing. >> we have another graphic i want to throw up. this is pretty much your upper middle class couple, combined yearly income, 940,000 bucks. under the democrats' plan, you see the numbers, taxes going up about $37,000. much less when you see the republican plan numbers, about $17,000. and then if we go off the cliff, this couple gets hammered because their taxes go up close to $50,000. their best deal, laurie montgomery, coming from the republicans. >> right. exactly. because the republicans don't want to raise their rates where as if we go over the cliff, they lose everything. everyone loses everything if we go over the cliff. and the democrats want those folks to lose their income tax rates anyhow so they get a better deal from the republicans because the republicans are saying, no, no, we want to extend the tax cuts for you too. >> laurie montgomery from the washington post, thank yo
triggering massive tax hikes and spending c cuts. >>> no sign of president obama, the first lady, sash has or malia, this year it's all about bo. the card was designed by iowa artist and dog lover lorissa cable. >>> a holiday surprise for some walmart shoppers in south florida. secret santas paid off their layaway bills. >> my layaway is paid? >> yep. the rest of your balance is paid off. >> are you serious? >> yes, very serious. you no longer own a balance. >> tell santa thank you very much! >> an athletic club pitched in $500 which helped six families. several layaway shoppers say they wish they could meet their secret santas to give them a hug and kiss and say thank you. >>> time for your early reads. your local news making national headlines. we begin with tacoma's news tribune which says day one of legalized marijuana was pretty chill. there were no run on doritos, increased in car wrecks, no crazy displays of joy. >>> to florida, the sun sentinel newspaper, florida wildlife officials announcing the 2013 python challenge. it's a hunting contest that begins next month because the burme
to bring in a man who says president obama's plan would create jobs and cut the deficit. he's democratic congressman chris van hollen, maryland, ranking member of the house budget committee. welcome to you, sir. you said today -- >> good to be with you. >> good to be with you, too. we're in the fourth quarter as we approach the fiscal cliff. if we can deliver like rg iii delivers, we'll be doing well. the question i would ask is why the hell are we in the fourth quarter? why wasn't this done in the first quarter? >> well, piers, as you know, there were a number of efforts before the election to get this done and there were major differences between the parties, and those parties became a big part of the conversation during the presidential debate. the president could not have been clearer that he wanted to do two things. he wanted to boost economic growth by doing things like investing in our infrastructure which used to be a bipartisan idea, but also, extending middle class tax cuts and as you said, asking the wealthiest to pay a little bit more to reduce the deficit. that was part of t
problem. >> does this mean that president obama sort of holds all the cards not just with spending cut, but on the tax cuts as well? >> all of these i'm going to stand my ground, they're not working anymore. these pledges, they're not working right now. a lot of them are going to recognize they can't get a big victory right now. >> let's look at a "washington post" poll, it shows who americans where really going blame if we got off the fiscal cliff. 53% say republicans in congress, 27% say president obama. 17% say it's both. what do republicans have in this battle? they really don't have much leverage, do they? >> the democrats faced the same thing in 2000, when george w. bush got elected, they realized they were going to have to scale back and do what he wanted hem to do. they're going to ask for entitle been reform. >> and this is going to happen on december 31st at 11:59? >> boehner and obama are meeting today for a reason because they know they have to do the chest beating inside and out. please, obama's begging, boehner's begging, they're going to finish this up. >>> a popular mex
if president obama and congressional republicans can't head off big tax increases and government spending cuts that are now 25 days away. for now, the administration is looking at the economy's bright side. let's go live to our white house correspondent dan loathian. >> reporter: the white house says it is another indication that the economy is starting to heal from some of the wounds inflicted by the economic downturn. vice president joe biden out speaking with middle class americans today said that the u.s. economy has turned the corner. he was very emphatic about that saying saying it is moving in a positive direction. at the same time, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going up. >> these are hard working, serious americans who are playing by the rules, doing it all right, and struggling already in this economy. >> reporter: jobs numbers, proof the administratio
pressure might grow so heavy, that whatever mix of tax increases and tax cuts and spending that he wishes, headline is obama must learn to negotiate. do you think that's true? that basically if you get closer and closer to the deadline, that the president can do whatever he wants? he holds the cards. >> i don't think that's true. the president has never waivered from what he said from when the republicans first brought us to the cliff. the first debate for the debt ceiling. he wants a plan big, bold, balanced. we were ready to sign on the dotted line a year ago. the problem was, it was a mix of spending cuts and tax increases on the wealthy and the republicans wouldn't gettive us a nickel of tax increases on the wealthy. the president in a much stronger position. he campaigned relentlessly on the notion to ask the wealthiest to pay more. is he in a better place. at the end of the day, we understand there has to be a compromise. i think the $250,000 figure is too low. i'm not willing to tell all of my constituents that earn below $250,000 that their taxes are going to go up, because i held
weeks now from the 1-2 punch of tax increases and government spending cuts. president obama, house speaker john boehner held another phone call last night. here is speaker boehner on that. >> there were some offers that were exchanged back and forth yesterday. and the president and i had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> as we mentioned just last hour, take a look at the graph, these two sides have moved closer on taxes over the last couple of weeks. speaker boehner offered up $800 billion in new tax revenues after insisting on none. the president just this week, he's come down a little bit to $1.4 trillion but still no dice. no deal. cnn's sandra endo is standing by at reagan national airport, across the potomac from washington. so, sandra, if we hit this fiscal cliff, all the spending cuts kick in, what effect will that have on air travel? >> reporter: the big unknown is still how it will affect the everyday traveler. and that is certainly something a lot of people here are wanting to figure out. as for the air traffic controllers union, they release
blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with president obama taking his battle to extend tax cuts for the middle class into the heart of the middle class suburb today. he visited a family just outside washington, d.c., using their story to dramatize what will happen in just 26 days if he and congress can't make a deal on the so-called fiscal cliff. a source of great concern for so many people, everyone's taxes will go up, will go up if there's no deal. let's go live to our white house correspondent dan lothian. he's on the scene for us over at the white house. how did it go, dan? >> reporter: well, wolf, we've seen the president do this before in the past whenever he's locked in negotiations with lawmakers. he heads out on the road, either goes to a backyard or sits down around a dinner table to put pressure on congress. that's what he did today when he went to falls church sitting down with the santana family. their parents who also are employed live in the household with them. so if taxes do go up on middle class americans, the overall hit on that household will be $4,000.
. president obama used his weekly address insisting he is ready to make the tough decisions on spending cuts. >> i am willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the one trillion in spending cuts i signed into law last year. but if we're serious about reducing our deficit while still investing in things like education and research that are important to growing our economy, and if we're serious about protecting middle class families then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that is one principle i wouldn't compromise on. >> speaker john boehner has a different view. he says the president needs to abandon what he called his "my way or the highway approach," in his words. if the president does that a lot of things are possible. >>> syrian rebels are battling army units around the capital. activists say 26 people were killed in the damascus suburbs today, while 29 more were killed around the country. meanwhile, the u.s. and other officials warning against chemical weapons. syria says it would never use the chemical weapons against its own
will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. >> president obama wants republicans to sign off on the wealthy tax hike before any negotiations about spending cuts begin. >>> a cloud of political uncertainty hanging over venezuela. president hugo chavez announced that his cancer has return and he's traveling to cuba for surgery for a third time. this time, the 58-year-old leader, named the vice president as his choice to replace him in case something were to happen to happen. >>> a man who shot three people to death on an indian reservation in california has been killed. police near fresno were involved in the shootout with the man who reportedly opened fire earlier on several people, three of whom died. his two young daughters were wounded, and police chased the suspect and said he shot at them, too. no word yet on what prompted his rampage. >>> the national menorah in front of the white house, illuminated tonight, marking the eight-day start of the jewish holiday hanukkah. ♪ of course, no hanukkah celebration would be complete without a spinning
. in case you forgot the former senator is one half of the simpson bowles duo appointed by president obama who actually came up with a plan to cut the deficit, a plan that everyone hailed as magnificent but no one wanted to adopt. >>> joining me now is cnn contributor will cain. he leans right. good morning, will. >> good morning. let me tell you something. you said the popularity of gangnam style knows no limits. i beg to differ. >> you do? >> i think we just found its limits, when 8-year-olds start doing gangnam style you can count on its popularity decreasing. we're about a year away from it being makarena. >> trying to get two sides come together to come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> i don't know about young people's abilities to force cats and dogs and democrats and republicans to come together to find a deal. he had a much more profound message than just simply dancing in that clip, in that psa essentially. he was trying to alert young people to the fact that old people, bluntly, are organized. look at the army of aarp representatives that ensure that programs like medicare and s
-enter the workforce, but if taxes go up, it won't be worth it so that's why you're in favor of a tax cut for the rich that the president is pushing for? >> that's right and i also feel that president obama was re-elected for a reason. an most of the people in this country go along with his idea that the wealthy need to pay their fair share. i think that it would be totally irresponsible on his part and the republicans if they don't come to a decision on this before the first of the year, and get something ironed out -- >> so, richard, what do you think? should we go off the cliff? should we just see where the chips fall? >> no, i do not agree with going off the cliff. we should come to something, some type of an agreement here. but the wealthy should pay their fair share. i do believe in that. >> mayor hall, your town relies on federal funds to keep your water drinkable at the local treatment plant. so how would going off the cliff affect your city budget? >> well, you know, any time that you're dealing with funds that the tax payers money is involve in, you've got to look at the checks and balances
problems? yes. >> president obama wants republicans to agree to the wealthy tax hike before any negotiations about spending cuts begin. >>> just after midnight gay couples living in washington state made history joining in the first legal same-sex marriages in the state. the governor signed the voter approved referendum into law on wednesday. >>> mexican authorities say they have found the wreckage of a small plane believed carrying mexican american singer jenny rivera and six others. the plane had been missing since early this morning. reportedly lost contact with air-traffic controllers after taking off from monterey, mexico. authorities believe no one survived the crash. rivera is the mother of five children. >>> the national menorah in front of the white house was illuminated marking the start of the 5ieight-day jewish holiday hanukkah. ♪ of course, no hanukkah celebration would be complete without a spinning dreidel. this one danced to music performed by the u.s. navy band. >>> all the talk about the fiscal cliff may seem like a far off debate over politics in washington,
. obama, as you know, is standing very firm on the $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. he is offering $400 billion in cuts from the so-called entitlements but also wants to spend $50 billion on infrastructure. mr. boehner, on the other hand, is offering half -- half of what the president's number is on those taxes and not in what you'd say increases. more like closing of loopholes. he also wants much deeper cuts in entitlements and beyond. so we're watching both ends of pennsylvania avenue this hour. we've got dan lothian who is standing pat at the white house to figure out just exactly what the movements are every day. dana bash is on capitol hill. dan, let me start with you. we were just hearing from the president and we were cut off by a nasty satellite. let me talk about these business people and what exactly they can bring to the table because it seems as though he's soliciting them for advice. >> reporter: he is. but at the same time, you brought up a good point, that the president really has been doing a lot of the pressure as opposed to sitting down with lawmakers face-to-face. he's using
conversation, at least from the republican standpoint, is being characterized the wrong way. president obama, the democrats aren't looking to raise anyone's taxes. what they're doing is allowing the bush tax cuts to expire. in other words, allow the tax to go back to where they were when we created jobs. i think, if the republicans are able to say, look, we're willing to allow tax to go for 98% of the nation so that we can talk about entitlements, i think that characterization of the conversation will help them in terms of image because right now it doesn't look as if they care about the middle class. they need to focus in on the fact that they're allowing 98%, the majority of the bush tax cuts to be extended, and they can claim that as a victory. i think you will see a shift in the way people are viewing who's at fault in the fiscal cliff conversation, and you'll be able to have a much more positive attitude about the republicans heading into this so-called battle well hillary clinton in the future. >> l.z. granderson and will cain, thank you, gentlemen. we appreciate it. >> thanks, ted. >>
, december 5th, and "starting point" begins right now. >>> our "starting point" this morning, president obama putting his foot down. he says no tax hikes for the wealthy, no deal. america hits that fiscal cliff in 27 days and that means tax hikes and deep spending cuts if the democrats and the republicans can't come together in some kind of a deal and with just ten days remaining until congress is scheduled to go home for the holidays, the clock ticking. here's what he told bloomberg news. listen. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able it to get a deal without it. >> we start this morning with white house correspondent dan lothian, he's in washington, d.c. okay. so who's got the ball in their court at this point then, dan? >> well, you know, i think the house gop, they have presented their counteroffer which white house spokesman jay carney is referring to as, quote, magic beans and fairy dust. we expect that house republicans will keep putting pressure on the white house to engage, push for more details on what the white house will accept w
know, president obama insi insists there is no deal to present on the top 2% of earners. >> it doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. all of those americans too get a tax cut on that finramework. in some sense it is a tax cut for all americans. >> bottom line, we are talking today but we are still at stalemate. a phone call is big news between these two. >> we are hearing about senate republicans, what are you hearing, how significant is it. it is significant for a couple of reasons. these three republicans in different ways suggested that they would be okay with what most republicans are saying that they are not okay with. raising tax rates for the wealthy. he is the most conservative not just fiscally. the way these things tend to go, is that there is a little bit of a crack and that tends to send the other cracks into what is now a solid opposition and we will see how that goes. we are talking about senate republicans and the key thing that we have to watch is house republicans. if something can't get through the house, then it can't get through congress. >> david, what
, president obama responded to boehner's remark. >> i'm willing to make more entitlement spending cuts on top of the one trillion dollars in spending cuts i signed into law last year. but if we're serious about reducing our deficit while still investing in things like education and research that are important to growing our economy, and if we're serious about protecting middle class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >>> holiday hiring may have given a big boost to the jobs report released yesterday. retail hirers hired more people than any month on record since 1939. 146,000 jobs were added to the economy last month, and the unemployment rate fell to a four-year low of 7.7% partly because thousands have just simply stopped looking for work. >>> more good news for your wallet. gas prices are down to an average of $3.36. it is the 16th consecutive time the price has dropped. the highest price for a gallon of regular is in high where it's $4.02. >>> he served his party as a republican, and
offended by president obama's last offer. they felt it was so outrageous. >> it was outrageous. it was double what they saw last year. it had spending increases, rather than spending cuts. and it wanted to have congress lose its role, in term terms of increasing the debt ceiling. none of that's probably going to happen. and i think to nick's point, it's a good point. if you go back and look. i worked for reagan years ago. reagan and tip o'neill would sit and work together. i'm not saying they'd do every detail. >> so was gingrich and clinton. >> and clinton and gingrich evolved into that kind of relationship. and i must say the president has done a poor job. he did a poor job last year and he's done a poor job this year. two days after the election, boehner came up with a tax revenue plan. very controversial in his party. he said, let's cap deductions and loopholes and leave the race alone because that help growth. that was $800 billion. it shocked a lot of republicans. and he got nothing. he got, you know, nothing from obama. and i think that started the bad blood. and i think
the fiscal cliff. in 22 days we go over that edge. that's when sweeping tax hikes and spending cuts kick in unless a deal gets done. after 23 days without uttering a word to each other face-to-face, that is, president obama and house speaker john boehner sat down at the white house yesterday. they talked. so let's bring in brianna keilarment she is live in washington. so congress is scheduled to break for the holidays later this week. where do we go from here? how are these talks? >> we don't know. that's the thing. we know they spoke. in fact, it's somewhat remarkable that both the white house and speaker boehner's office put out statements simply saying that the two men had spoken. the lines of communication are open. and they were the same verbatim. that is something you can look at as some progress, perhaps. certainly it is promising may be the better way to put it. there is coordination there. they seem to be talking in good faith, trying to keep, i guess, their cards very close to the vest. and that is something that maybe is seen as promising. again, there is no word on actual pro
in today for john berman. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. >>> up first, president obama standing his ground over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> white house correspondent dan lothian joins us live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> here's the deal. we have republicans pitted against democrats. now we understand there are issues amongst republicans as well. >> that's right. they're in a tough spot here. they don't want to be in left in a position of being blamed for the fiscal cliff. you're seeing a division between house members and senate members. the reason for this is mainly over
about the gop counter offer at this hour. we know president obama and house speaker boehner sat down for a no cameras meeting over the weekend. the competing offers come after both sides aired sharp differences on the house floor. watch. >>. >> where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow walks this process the closer the economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> where are the revenues? where are the revenues? regardless of the cuts or changes of entitlements more is demanded in terms of what seniors would have to pay in to a medicare and what age that would happen. while the republicans refuse to touch one hair on the head of a the wealthiest people in our country. >> when it comes to taxes the top senate republicans said it was time for his party to give in and move on. >> what the president is trying to the achieve on the top two tax rates, you know, he can get by doing nothing. the law is certainly stacked in his favor. >> sharing the view a tack increase is all but inevitable. >> senator coburn is joining us now. you have said the tax rates are going up on
] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. >>> both president obama and john boehner are accusing each other of not making serious offers to avoid the across the board tax increases and spending cuts that people here in washington call the fiscal cliff. most house members are going home today with only 27 days to make a deal. two house leaders who are not going home are with me in the situation room. they're working very hard to avoid the fiscal cliff. thanks so much for coming in. for so long, republicans wanted to extend the bush tax cuts forever, now for 98% of the american people, the democrats are saying, we're ready. we've given up, we'll let you have those bush tax cuts for as long as possible. let's just resolve that, we'll move on to some of the tougher issues later. let's make sure that 98% of the american families have these lower tax rates into next year. why not give that? >> the debate over those top two pshsz, is really a strong man debate. what we need is tax reform in america. we need a simpler less complicated tax code. >> i agree wi
of the overspending of obama's first term by having 4% growth instead of 2% growth. and we know how to do it, because we did it under reagan. >> but why would you cut spending then, spending that's supposed to encourage the economy to get better so you get more growth and get rid of your deficits? >> i think -- well, i think we should, one -- first of all, we have to pay down the debt he ran up. we're spending $1 trillion more each year, the federal government -- we, the federal government is spending $1 trillion more each year than when obama walked into office. it's that overspending we need to bring down. raising taxes doesn't solve the overspending problem. it feeds it. and, again, we have been through this lucy and the football thing in '82, in '90. we didn't take the advice of the tax increase last year, and we got spending restraint for the debt ceiling. remember, the republican house has a tremendous power over the debt ceiling. so all this stuff about how we have to bend to the emperor's will isn't true. >> all right. grover norquist, thanks very much. we appreciate yourtation the time tonig
for me on the phone, senior congressional correspondent. >>> president obama taking the pr on the road to visit with a middle class family in northern virginia this afternoon and push to preserve the middle class tax cut if the president and congress can't reach a deal you know the story. tax rates for the middle class and everyone else will go up the first of next year. meanwhile, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell prevented a simple majority vote to give the president unilateral power to raise the u.s. debt limit. senator mcconnell is demanding 60 senate votes for passage. president obama pushed for the power transfer in a most recent and main proposal last week on the fiscal cliff. >>> now no john mcafee. the millionaire software guru wanted in questioning in the neighbor's murder in belize. maybe you heard mcafee. got arrested in guatemala overnight. shouldn't come as much of a surprise here. the whole time supposedly on the run, he was handing out tv interviews like candy. but listen to this. now the mcafee is in jail, he is blogging from behind bars. the story just keeps gett
, we make some tough spending cuts on things we don't need and ask the wealthiest americans to pay a slightly higher tax rate. >> not so fast, mr. president. president obama says his plan reduces the deficit we $4 trillion over 10 years. forget the fact that it counts war savings which shouldn't count and go with the $4 trillion. house speaker john boehner said his plan cuts $2.2 trillion over 10 years. think about $16 trillion. that's how much debt this country has and according to bill gross, the man who runs the world's biggest bond fund, the guy that decides to lend money to the united states and how much we have to pay to borrow, says we have to cut spending or raise taxes by 11% of gdp over next 10 years and according to gross that's $1.6 trillion a year. that is, let's just make this clear, $1.2 trillion a year more than the president proposes and $1.38 trillion a year more than john boehner has offered. yeah. peanuts. i recently spoke with erskine bowles, the bowles in simpson-bowles and even he agreed that bill gross is right. >> absolutely. he's 100% right. i don't know i
to president obama's sales pitch for his version of a compromise. >> when you put it all together, what you need is a package that keeps taxes where they are for middle class families, we make some tough spending cuts on things that we don't need, and then we ask the wealthiest americans to pay a slightly higher tax rate. >> brianna keilar is at the white house. brianna, are meetings going on outside of the public's view? is that your understanding? >> reporter: well, there are discussions. that is what we're told. as we understand it, obviously, the last meeting between the president and speaker boehner was on sunday. but we're told by both the white house and the speaker's office that discussions are ongoing, so, obviously, they can all pick up the telephone, and that, quote, the lines of communication are open. this is thing we're hearing over and over again. but make to mistake, there are no significant details of any progress, of any deal that has been struck. so at this point, we know that they still are pretty far apart. the white house still demanding and president obama said this y
, mr. president. we need a little more than you're talking about. president obama says his plan reduces the deficit by $4 trillion over ten years. forget the fact it counts war savings which shouldn't count. let's go with the $4 trillion. john boehner said his plan cuts $2.2 trillion over ten years. you shouldn't be comparing those two nubs. what you should think about is $16 trillion. that's how much debt the country has. according to bill groesdz, the man who runs the biggest fund, ie, the man who decides how much we can spend and borrow, we have to cut spending or raise taxes. that's $1.6 trillion a year. that's $1.2 trillion a year more than the president proposes. and $1.38 trillion a year more than john boehner has offered. yeah. peanuts. i recently spoke with erskine bowles, the bowles of simpson-bowles, and he agrees that he's right. >> absolutely. he's 1pen hearst right. i don't know if 16 is the number, but i would be happier at $5 trillion or $6 trillion because that's what we need to solve the number long term. >> those are big numbers. i want to bring in john avlon right no
, too. they kept a pretty tight lid on them. one of them by president obama, that was yesterday, then a counteroffer by the speaker. that was today. all of this as the president tells abc news tonight that he is confident that republicans will not hold middle class tax cuts hostage. so there's a lot of news that's all of a sudden coming out. after some relative quiet. our white house correspondent dan lothian is on the case and joins me now by telephone, because you've been working your sources. take me into the conversation. all of this breaking late today and it sounds good. it sounds at least like there's some movement, dan. >> reporter: that's right. that's always been the issue, because as you know, it was just last week we were talking about the fact that there were no talks ongoing, not even behind the scenes, and now these latest developments and as you pointed out, we didn't even know the white house had submitted another offer yesterday but confirmation coming from a senior administration official that in fact, the white house did submit that offer yesterday to house r
walsh, cnn, beirut. >> another story, just three weeks away from the tax hikes, spending cuts that make up fiscal cliff, we're now seeing house speaker boehner discussing the issue from the house floor. the first time he's commented publicly after meeting with president obama sunday. let's listen. >>> right flonow the american people have to be wondering when is the president going to get serious. i yield back. >> the chair recognizes the gentlemen from pennsylvania mr. altmire, for five minutes. >> i rise to recognize victor decarlo for receiving the -- >> we have been listening to the house speaker talking about negotiations taking place with the president obviously, a lot of people watching closely, trying to avoid the fiscal cliff which would mean tax hikes for almost all americans but also severe cuts as well. they are debating that publicly as well as privately. i want to talk more about the rebel group that we had mention before in syria, that is now designated a new terrorist organization, cnn's hala gorani joining us atlanta. hala, first of all, you've got the syrian rebels, th
the spending cuts he's willing to make as part of the balanced approach he promised the american people. that's from brendan buck, a press secretary for john boehner. meanwhile, president obama is standing firm on his commitment to sign no deal that doesn't include tax rates for the wealthiest americans. he mentioned some of that yesterday in a campaigning event in michigan, zoraida. >> his spokesperson said they're not going to negotiate through the media. a lot of people are thinking that is actually a good thing. >> correct. >> we have an urgent situation in washington right now. tell us about the deadlines. we know that everybody's leaving for the christmas break and the president had said that he wanted a deal done before then. >> that's absolutely correct. and we also have a de facto deadline that we're pushing up against in terms of on friday. if there is a deal, they will potentially need to reach it by friday. the legislative process takes time to cook, if you will, about two weeks potentially. they would potentially need to have a deal done by friday so that we don't actually go ove
saying and others who have looked at this problem, we've done enough cutting in discretionary spending. that shouldn't be part of the current discussion, and, in fact, it isn't. the things that people are talking about now, specifically very important people like president obama and speaker boehner, is the tax code and these programs that we sometimes call entitlements, medicare, medicaid and social security. those are the things that are on the table at the moment, not defense. unless the bargain fails, unless the two sides cannot get together and then the thing that will happen, and it will happen quickly, are drastic cuts in defense and domestic spending and an automatic increase in taxes. that is what must be avoided. just because the economy couldn't take it at this stage. we've had relatively slow growth in the economy, and though it seems to be picking up and the last jobs report was quite favorable, having a crash austerity program right now, that's what the fiscal cliff is, would be a big mistake. so the two sides have to get together on this grand bargain. >> well, we certain
standing behind the president when asked who was handling the crisis better, 49% support president obama and the democrats while only 25% support house speaker john boehner and the republicans. so if there's no deal and the tax hikes and spending cuts take effect, we feel the impact. christine romans sat down with this panel for a report on the bottom line. here's part of the conversation she had with a working mom, small business owner and a woman looking for work. >> i have a household to run. still have rent and bills to pay, and i need help. i need help. >> three kids? >> yeah. >> how old are your kids, 23, 18, and 11. >> what do you tell them when they see the economy in front of them and hear all this fighting in washington about the fiscal cliff. you've been looking for a job for more than six months now. are you more optimistic or less than things will turn around next year? >> i believe it's going to turn around. it will probably take a little time, but i think it will. >> you need the government to help now until that happens? >> yes, i definitely do. >> you just had a baby. co
boehner and president obama. i really feel a deal has to be made. look, by the end of the year, either republicans have to come together with democrats and have a deal, or else the tax cuts expire. who doesn't believe that on january 3rd republicans would not come back and extend the tax increases that would affect 98% of americans in this country. >> so "the wall street journal" has an editorial. i think it's kind of an sprg interesting editorial, and i'll read a chunk of it. "it's a shame that republicans are playing into mr. obama's hands. mr. obama isn't going to blink on the budget if he thinks republicans are going to blink first. so far, the emerging gop position seems to be to surrender on taxes first and hope that mr. obama will have mercy on them later on entitlements. but what is the evidence in the last four years or even since the election that mr. obama won't pocket that victory and then refuse to offer any but token changes on entitlements." >> that's a reversal of what they wrote a few weeks ago where republicans will take the victory in keeping them from going up. >> b
into sticking with it. good for you. >>> president obama in michigan at the detroit diesel corporation. we're looking at remarks there. he's going to address middle class families. president talking about the economy and focusing on the expiring tax cuts as we near this fiscal cliff. we're going to bring their remarks live as they happen. first, christine romans has a look at what it would be like he if the country let those tax cuts expire, and we go off the so-called fiscal cliff. >> reality track says one in three homes sold short. right now you don't owe taxes on the forgiven debt. on the other side of the fiscal cliff you do. it gives homeowners a tax break on unpaid mortgage debt and expires on december 31st unless congress acts. >> the average amount that homeowners are short in a short sale is $95,000. if this tax break goes away as part of the so-called fiscal cliff, those homeowners could be taxed on that $95,000 as additional income starting in 2013. >> how much homeowners will owe in taxes on that amount depending on the tax bracket they're in. on average it would be between 20
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